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		<title>Comment on City Refuses To Produce American Indian Archaeology Report On Texas Horse Park &#8211; Bulldozers Set To Ravage 7000 Year Old Site by Alexandra Bonifield</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexandra Bonifield]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2012 03:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reblogged this on &lt;a href=&quot;http://criticalrant.com/2012/05/26/4530/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;criticalrant.com  Alexandra Bonifield&lt;/a&gt; and commented: 
How dishonest, rapacious can The Arboretum get, in collusion with the City of Dallas?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reblogged this on <a href="http://criticalrant.com/2012/05/26/4530/" rel="nofollow">criticalrant.com  Alexandra Bonifield</a> and commented:<br />
How dishonest, rapacious can The Arboretum get, in collusion with the City of Dallas?</p>
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		<title>Comment on City Refuses To Produce American Indian Archaeology Report On Texas Horse Park &#8211; Bulldozers Set To Ravage 7000 Year Old Site by Mary! Mary! Winfrey Point/City Hall Documents Revealed &#171; Dallas Drilling&#039;s Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary! Mary! Winfrey Point/City Hall Documents Revealed &#171; Dallas Drilling&#039;s Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2012 17:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] New Documents Reveal 2010 Arboretum Proposals For Winfrey Point – 4000 Car Underground Parking Garage and Restaurant Among Massive Project Goals Posted on May 6, 2012 [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on City Refuses To Produce American Indian Archaeology Report On Texas Horse Park &#8211; Bulldozers Set To Ravage 7000 Year Old Site by Jan Bottles</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jan Bottles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2012 13:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am saddened and shocked to learn that this planning to destroy the prairie grass at Winfrey Point has been in the works, covertly, it seems, since 2010. I have the financial means to attend The Arboretum, and do so, frequently. I realize, however, as any intelligent individual can clearly see, that The Arboretum is not affordable &quot;entertainment&quot; for many families. To consider using park property and taxpayer money to build parking for an establishment that is not affordable for all, is basically stealing and very bad stewardship.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am saddened and shocked to learn that this planning to destroy the prairie grass at Winfrey Point has been in the works, covertly, it seems, since 2010. I have the financial means to attend The Arboretum, and do so, frequently. I realize, however, as any intelligent individual can clearly see, that The Arboretum is not affordable &#8220;entertainment&#8221; for many families. To consider using park property and taxpayer money to build parking for an establishment that is not affordable for all, is basically stealing and very bad stewardship.</p>
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		<title>Comment on City Refuses To Produce American Indian Archaeology Report On Texas Horse Park &#8211; Bulldozers Set To Ravage 7000 Year Old Site by Sandy from Texas</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sandy from Texas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 16:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For large events at museums, they sell tickets with designated times to prevent being overrun by patrons. I don&#039;t understand why the Arboretum, knowing this would be a popular exhibit, knowing it could not provide parking, was not required to sell tickets instead of allowing stampedes.

Also, why is the Dart station on Northwest Hwy not the focal point of parking needs? A shuttle from there would encourage more folks to take the train and avoid the parking mess.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For large events at museums, they sell tickets with designated times to prevent being overrun by patrons. I don&#8217;t understand why the Arboretum, knowing this would be a popular exhibit, knowing it could not provide parking, was not required to sell tickets instead of allowing stampedes.</p>
<p>Also, why is the Dart station on Northwest Hwy not the focal point of parking needs? A shuttle from there would encourage more folks to take the train and avoid the parking mess.</p>
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		<title>Comment on About PaveTheLake by Ken Elliott</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ken Elliott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2012 17:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A point-by-point response to the Arboretum press release follows--

Arboretum Press Release Following Today&#039;s Court Hearing:

 
DALLAS (May 4, 2012)- Today, the 192nd Civil District Court of Dallas County dissolved a Temporary Restraining Order and Temporary Injunction that was brought against the Dallas Arboretum earlier this week. The injunction was an attempt to halt parking at Winfrey Point, an area of White Rock Lake Park.

Winfrey Point was mowed by the city for decades and those attending events at the lake would park on the mowed areas. Due to budget constraints, in recent years, the Park Department ceased mowing Winfrey Point and the areas were permitted to grow, allowing invasive plants to become established and to spread. The plaintiffs have made allegations to create the impression that Winfrey Point is an endangered ecosystem and that it contains pristine, native grasses.
 
--Regardless of past mowing and parking activities at Winfrey, the fact remains that these areas have been allowed to grow in recent years and the residents and vistitors to Winfrey have discovered that they have a unique value and beauty that we wish to perserve.

--We are not claiming that Winfrey Point is home to 100% pristine, native plant species. The message we are trying to convey is that we find the current state of Winfrey to be worth preserving and promoting, as it is aesthetically appealing in situ, and does contain a great many native species. Groups such as The Healthy Habitat Prairie Restoration Project at St. John&#039;s Episcopal School are working in these areas to control the invasive species and promote the propogation of the native ones. It is a valuable learning experience and community service program for the children.

 
“This claim could not be further from the truth. Almost all of the grasses observed at Winfrey Point are non-native, invasive species. I identified 15 species of non-native grasses, some of which are very aggressive,” said Dr. Robert O’Kennon, Ph.D. “These non-native grasses and plants at Winfrey Point need to be kept under control and appropriately mowed or eradicated to attempt to prevent their spread to and the destruction of the other regions of White Rock Lake Park with native flora. Furthermore, ‘Blackland Prairie’ is a soil type; it does not refer to what grows on it. There are 12 million acres of ‘Blackland Prairie’ in North Texas.”
 
--The ratio of native to invasive species is not the subject of debate in this issue. As previously noted, Winfrey supporters are well aware of the various plant species in place. What the Arboretum release doesn&#039;t mention, however, is that the prairie areas at Winfrey are home to Redtail Fox, Bobcat, Rabbit, and many bird species that are uncommon in the rest of the Dallas area.

--The claim that there are 12 million acres of blackland prairie currently is false. There were 12 million acres a century or more ago, but there are scarcely 3,000 acres in place today. Many of the species in the remaining areas are threatened or endangered.

 
“Those unfamiliar with the situation are being misled by those with an agenda, and are not being given all the facts or an explanation of the various concerns,” said Brian Shivers, Chairman of the Board at the Dallas Arboretum. “The top concern is that the limited parking around the lake is a safety issue for Dallas citizens who enjoy White Rock Lake as a place to run, cycle, walk and take in the scenery.”
 
--Limited parking is the primary agenda and issue for the Arboretum. The only agenda Winfrey supporters have is the preservation and protection of Winfrey in its present state.

--While parking at Winfrey can be challenging, it is hardly out-of-hand or a &quot;safety issue.&quot; Speed of vehicles in the area is extremely low due to terrain and road condition issues, and everyone is typically aware of the activities taking place and tends to excercise extreme caution.

 
The Dallas Park and Recreation Department asked the Dallas Arboretum, experienced in event management and parking coordination, to manage parking and traffic at Winfrey Point for White Rock Lake Park events and the Arboretum. The Arboretum is also exploring partnerships with other conservation organizations to replant sections of the area with true native plants. “We want to be a good neighbor, and if requested to do so by the city, we will take care of parking for Winfrey Point and provide ideas for beautification so it continues to be a great asset for White Rock Lake,” said Mary Brinegar, President and CEO of the Dallas Arboretum.
 
--This is generally a positive statement. However, it seems unlikely that the City approached the Arboretum for parking assistance. There is high likelyhood that exactly the opposite took place and the Arboretum approached the City.

--Mary Brinegar&#039;s statement would hold more weight if the Arboretum had expressed a sincere interest in propogating native species at Winfrey prior to the recent objections over its use. However, as previously stated, local organizations have had to take measures on their own to study and promote positive growth in the prairie areas.

 
“This is a win-win for the City of Dallas. Those attending the events at Winfrey Point and visiting White Rock Lake will finally be able to park in a safe and orderly way,” said Paul Dyer, Director of the Dallas Park and Recreation Department. “We hear many concerns from residents and lake users about the traffic congestion and parking issues at Winfrey Point. More and more people are using and visiting White Rock Lake and currently, there is inadequate parking. People visiting the lake and attending the many runs and ball games often turn to dangerous and illegal parking. Further, grass that’s left unmowed is a fire hazard and threatens homes in the area.”
 
--The parking situation at Winfrey, while often congested, is generally far from &quot;dangerous&quot; or &quot;illegal.&quot; In fact, the question of legallity has only come up in the last year or so since the city revamped it parking ordinances.

--Having talked to many residents along the lake, not one has expressed a concern over fire danger. While there may be some inherent risk of fire associated with tall grasses, the residents consider that risk to be a calculated one, and much prefer the appearence of the open tall grass spaces over any worry of fire danger. 


The Arboretum and the City of Dallas, and the Park and Recreation Department are collaborating to act as good stewards to balance the use of Winfrey Point and act in the best interest of the people of the City of Dallas as a whole. The Arboretum has been on record with the city about its willingness to work with the Little League and the ball fields at Winfrey Point and has met with their leadership assuring them of such.
 
--It seems apparent that a good many of the citizens of Dallas as a whole would disagree with this statement. Also, the plans uncovered for ballpark elimination would seem to speak of quite opposite intentions regardless of the Arboretum&#039;s assurances to the contrary.

 
Robert (Bob) O’Kennon has been involved in botanical research and has worked for over thirty (30) years documenting plant life, grasslands and other flora throughout Texas, every state in the United States, as well as all over the world. He has created and maintained an extensive database on the plants and grasses of Texas. He has discovered or described more than thirty (30) new plant species. He founded the Texas Land Conservancy in 1982, and until recently served as its President. He has written or co-authored five books and over 100 peer-reviewed articles treatises on scientific botany, including: Flora of North Central Texas.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A point-by-point response to the Arboretum press release follows&#8211;</p>
<p>Arboretum Press Release Following Today&#8217;s Court Hearing:</p>
<p>DALLAS (May 4, 2012)- Today, the 192nd Civil District Court of Dallas County dissolved a Temporary Restraining Order and Temporary Injunction that was brought against the Dallas Arboretum earlier this week. The injunction was an attempt to halt parking at Winfrey Point, an area of White Rock Lake Park.</p>
<p>Winfrey Point was mowed by the city for decades and those attending events at the lake would park on the mowed areas. Due to budget constraints, in recent years, the Park Department ceased mowing Winfrey Point and the areas were permitted to grow, allowing invasive plants to become established and to spread. The plaintiffs have made allegations to create the impression that Winfrey Point is an endangered ecosystem and that it contains pristine, native grasses.</p>
<p>&#8211;Regardless of past mowing and parking activities at Winfrey, the fact remains that these areas have been allowed to grow in recent years and the residents and vistitors to Winfrey have discovered that they have a unique value and beauty that we wish to perserve.</p>
<p>&#8211;We are not claiming that Winfrey Point is home to 100% pristine, native plant species. The message we are trying to convey is that we find the current state of Winfrey to be worth preserving and promoting, as it is aesthetically appealing in situ, and does contain a great many native species. Groups such as The Healthy Habitat Prairie Restoration Project at St. John&#8217;s Episcopal School are working in these areas to control the invasive species and promote the propogation of the native ones. It is a valuable learning experience and community service program for the children.</p>
<p>“This claim could not be further from the truth. Almost all of the grasses observed at Winfrey Point are non-native, invasive species. I identified 15 species of non-native grasses, some of which are very aggressive,” said Dr. Robert O’Kennon, Ph.D. “These non-native grasses and plants at Winfrey Point need to be kept under control and appropriately mowed or eradicated to attempt to prevent their spread to and the destruction of the other regions of White Rock Lake Park with native flora. Furthermore, ‘Blackland Prairie’ is a soil type; it does not refer to what grows on it. There are 12 million acres of ‘Blackland Prairie’ in North Texas.”</p>
<p>&#8211;The ratio of native to invasive species is not the subject of debate in this issue. As previously noted, Winfrey supporters are well aware of the various plant species in place. What the Arboretum release doesn&#8217;t mention, however, is that the prairie areas at Winfrey are home to Redtail Fox, Bobcat, Rabbit, and many bird species that are uncommon in the rest of the Dallas area.</p>
<p>&#8211;The claim that there are 12 million acres of blackland prairie currently is false. There were 12 million acres a century or more ago, but there are scarcely 3,000 acres in place today. Many of the species in the remaining areas are threatened or endangered.</p>
<p>“Those unfamiliar with the situation are being misled by those with an agenda, and are not being given all the facts or an explanation of the various concerns,” said Brian Shivers, Chairman of the Board at the Dallas Arboretum. “The top concern is that the limited parking around the lake is a safety issue for Dallas citizens who enjoy White Rock Lake as a place to run, cycle, walk and take in the scenery.”</p>
<p>&#8211;Limited parking is the primary agenda and issue for the Arboretum. The only agenda Winfrey supporters have is the preservation and protection of Winfrey in its present state.</p>
<p>&#8211;While parking at Winfrey can be challenging, it is hardly out-of-hand or a &#8220;safety issue.&#8221; Speed of vehicles in the area is extremely low due to terrain and road condition issues, and everyone is typically aware of the activities taking place and tends to excercise extreme caution.</p>
<p>The Dallas Park and Recreation Department asked the Dallas Arboretum, experienced in event management and parking coordination, to manage parking and traffic at Winfrey Point for White Rock Lake Park events and the Arboretum. The Arboretum is also exploring partnerships with other conservation organizations to replant sections of the area with true native plants. “We want to be a good neighbor, and if requested to do so by the city, we will take care of parking for Winfrey Point and provide ideas for beautification so it continues to be a great asset for White Rock Lake,” said Mary Brinegar, President and CEO of the Dallas Arboretum.</p>
<p>&#8211;This is generally a positive statement. However, it seems unlikely that the City approached the Arboretum for parking assistance. There is high likelyhood that exactly the opposite took place and the Arboretum approached the City.</p>
<p>&#8211;Mary Brinegar&#8217;s statement would hold more weight if the Arboretum had expressed a sincere interest in propogating native species at Winfrey prior to the recent objections over its use. However, as previously stated, local organizations have had to take measures on their own to study and promote positive growth in the prairie areas.</p>
<p>“This is a win-win for the City of Dallas. Those attending the events at Winfrey Point and visiting White Rock Lake will finally be able to park in a safe and orderly way,” said Paul Dyer, Director of the Dallas Park and Recreation Department. “We hear many concerns from residents and lake users about the traffic congestion and parking issues at Winfrey Point. More and more people are using and visiting White Rock Lake and currently, there is inadequate parking. People visiting the lake and attending the many runs and ball games often turn to dangerous and illegal parking. Further, grass that’s left unmowed is a fire hazard and threatens homes in the area.”</p>
<p>&#8211;The parking situation at Winfrey, while often congested, is generally far from &#8220;dangerous&#8221; or &#8220;illegal.&#8221; In fact, the question of legallity has only come up in the last year or so since the city revamped it parking ordinances.</p>
<p>&#8211;Having talked to many residents along the lake, not one has expressed a concern over fire danger. While there may be some inherent risk of fire associated with tall grasses, the residents consider that risk to be a calculated one, and much prefer the appearence of the open tall grass spaces over any worry of fire danger. </p>
<p>The Arboretum and the City of Dallas, and the Park and Recreation Department are collaborating to act as good stewards to balance the use of Winfrey Point and act in the best interest of the people of the City of Dallas as a whole. The Arboretum has been on record with the city about its willingness to work with the Little League and the ball fields at Winfrey Point and has met with their leadership assuring them of such.</p>
<p>&#8211;It seems apparent that a good many of the citizens of Dallas as a whole would disagree with this statement. Also, the plans uncovered for ballpark elimination would seem to speak of quite opposite intentions regardless of the Arboretum&#8217;s assurances to the contrary.</p>
<p>Robert (Bob) O’Kennon has been involved in botanical research and has worked for over thirty (30) years documenting plant life, grasslands and other flora throughout Texas, every state in the United States, as well as all over the world. He has created and maintained an extensive database on the plants and grasses of Texas. He has discovered or described more than thirty (30) new plant species. He founded the Texas Land Conservancy in 1982, and until recently served as its President. He has written or co-authored five books and over 100 peer-reviewed articles treatises on scientific botany, including: Flora of North Central Texas.</p>
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		<title>Comment on City Refuses To Produce American Indian Archaeology Report On Texas Horse Park &#8211; Bulldozers Set To Ravage 7000 Year Old Site by Wilma Clay</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wilma Clay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 12:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are more than 1500 parking spaces at White Rock Market that are never filled. Why can&#039;t the arboretum work with the management of the WRM to provide shuttle service to the arboretum? It could work to the advantage of both the arboretum and WRM. 

And preserve the prairie grass.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are more than 1500 parking spaces at White Rock Market that are never filled. Why can&#8217;t the arboretum work with the management of the WRM to provide shuttle service to the arboretum? It could work to the advantage of both the arboretum and WRM. </p>
<p>And preserve the prairie grass.</p>
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		<title>Comment on City Refuses To Produce American Indian Archaeology Report On Texas Horse Park &#8211; Bulldozers Set To Ravage 7000 Year Old Site by Alan Rodriguez</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alan Rodriguez]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 05:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m curious why it is not obvious to everyone parking can be allowed on Garland road on the weekends.  Both sides of the street are available and the parked cars would encourage people to drive the posted speed limit.  Use the funds for a complete street makeover of garland road near the lake - a landscaped median with trees between the sidewalk and parked cars.  I&#039;m sure the home owners and businesses on Garland Road would not mind some trees, more people on the street and fewer speeding cars.  Why is the over built pedestrian unfriendly six lane &quot;highway&quot; along the lake off limits to the community and exclusively for speeding cars?  This could provide parking for both the arboretum and the lake visitors alike while making the entire area more pleasant for people, the home owners and encourage people to stroll down Garland road to visit the businesses and shops.  Use existing pavement for parking, lose the lanes, slow the cars and keep the existing green spaces. 


On a side note, has the arboretum encouraged visitors to cycle?  Why not creat a bicycle and moped lot along the lake and provide discounts for cyclist and moped visitors?  This also helps solve the parking problem and it&#039;s excellent PR.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m curious why it is not obvious to everyone parking can be allowed on Garland road on the weekends.  Both sides of the street are available and the parked cars would encourage people to drive the posted speed limit.  Use the funds for a complete street makeover of garland road near the lake &#8211; a landscaped median with trees between the sidewalk and parked cars.  I&#8217;m sure the home owners and businesses on Garland Road would not mind some trees, more people on the street and fewer speeding cars.  Why is the over built pedestrian unfriendly six lane &#8220;highway&#8221; along the lake off limits to the community and exclusively for speeding cars?  This could provide parking for both the arboretum and the lake visitors alike while making the entire area more pleasant for people, the home owners and encourage people to stroll down Garland road to visit the businesses and shops.  Use existing pavement for parking, lose the lanes, slow the cars and keep the existing green spaces. </p>
<p>On a side note, has the arboretum encouraged visitors to cycle?  Why not creat a bicycle and moped lot along the lake and provide discounts for cyclist and moped visitors?  This also helps solve the parking problem and it&#8217;s excellent PR.</p>
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		<title>Comment on City Refuses To Produce American Indian Archaeology Report On Texas Horse Park &#8211; Bulldozers Set To Ravage 7000 Year Old Site by Ted Barker</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted Barker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 03:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Hal, I posted to Twitter for more commentary.  I sent more links and pictures for background.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Hal, I posted to Twitter for more commentary.  I sent more links and pictures for background.</p>
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